Thursday, Nov 19, 2009

Posted by Mandee on November 18, 2009   |   27 Comments

Rest day


Four rounds for time of
500m Row
15 OHS @ 95 pounds

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The Golden State isn’t worth it

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27 responses to “Thursday, Nov 19, 2009”

  1. Russell says:

    (Continued from yesterday)


    I think it’s probably fair to express religious extremism as a fringe, or exception to the rule, and an equal possibility in any religion, but I don’t think that’s accurate. Not all ideas are created equally, and that includes religion. Islam in particular is very, very easily turned into an ignition point for violence and terrorism, and it’s not just because it’s hot in the middle east. The Koran itself is full of references to, and commandments for violence against non-believers. The religion is simply poisoned with ideas that cannot and do not jive with free societies, hence the outrageous attempts to control speech.

    As for the organic article, I totally agree with the comments that the arguments made based on taste-tests are weak and kind of stupid. This was not my first choice for a post on organic foods, but I couldn’t find what I was looking for. It’s also very easy to cry bias when a study is funded by ANYONE, and I think it is often the case, especially when grants are concerned, but you really can’t hide bad science. The organic market is largely driven by a fear of pesticides, which have never, ever been proven to be harmful to humans in the levels found in conventional usage, and a general anti-corporate, anti-American sentiment that seems to prefer home-grown manure-fertilized foods over the mass-produced, which makes organic foods 8 times as likely to infect you with ecoli ( CDC study- http://www.junkscience.com/dec98/avery.html)

    here is more on this: http://www.junkscience.com/aug99/foodsurv.html

  2. Barry S says:

    (continued from yesterday, too)

    Cycles of history fascinate me…a thousand years ago, it was the Muslims who promoted science, tolerance and religious freedom; welcoming and protecting people of all faiths in their conquered territories, while the Christian churches and leadership actively prosecuted as a heretic anyone who dared speak anything against their strict interpretation of the Bible and burned them at the stake. Scholarship was deemed irrelevant, since any book that repeated what was in the Bible was unnecessary and any book that said anything different was blasphemy. Muslim culture from 900 – 1200 AD gave us many advances in math, literature, science, astronomy, and medicine, while most of Europe wallowed in the Dark Ages.

    (Yes, I have references if you’re interested)

    Today the situation is obviously different, but the protests of the Muslim community now don’t sound all that different to me than the liberal protests a few years ago to ban conservative talk radio, or the ongoing battle conservative groups wage to ban books such as Huck Finn and Catcher in the Rye.

    Fanaticism in any way, shape, form, or fashion is still fanaticism.

    Moderation in all things…including (occasionally) moderation!

  3. Russell says:

    Islamic terrorism 1400 years ago certainly wasn’t what it is today, and we obviously aren’t burning heretics at the stake anymore. The argument that our recent rash of Muslim terrorism is a problem with certain people, and not a problem with the religion itself, seems fairly weak to me, and in the case of Maj. Hasan and the Ft. Hood shooting, seems to be getting to the point of irresponsible.

    It’s easy to find violence, both in history and in writing, in every religion. What matters to me isn’t who did what and when, but that Islam has a fantastic ability to turn it’s followers from law-abiding citizens of the first world into murdering goons of Jihad.

    Obviously this doesn’t mean all Muslims are bad people, but there is clearly something about the religion that allows people like Hasan to read the Koran and listen to their Imam and have a shared experience, and shared understanding that non-believers must be murdered. Part of this might be direct references in the Koran to acts of violence – for instance, beheading those who turn their backs on Islam, but I think J.D. hit the nail on the head when he wrote about the “silent majority” of Muslims who at best say and do nothing, and at worst view these men as martyrs and saints. Some may call this the religion of peace, I call it a mental disorder.

    I think you are right to compare this push against defamatory speech to the fight to ban talk radio and catcher in the rye – all of these are blatant attacks on our liberty. What makes this article more important is the immense power that Islamic countries wield in the UN, and the powerful sense of political correctness in America and Europe that will allow this sort of thing to happen out of a sense of fairness and decency towards a minority religion. After all, if political correctness keeps us from profiling a US soldier who was corresponding with our enemies, then why wouldn’t it also stop us from drawing cartoons of Mohammad?

  4. Aaron says:

    I seriously doubt this resolution will get past the General Assembly, but if it does pass, how will it affect my liberties? It won’t. I often ask myself what role does the UN really play in world affairs and how much power does the UN really have? As far as I can tell, the UN is a feel good organization that gives smaller countries an illusion of power and self worth, as if what they have to say some how matters on the world stage. Their programs like UNESCO and other aid programs that help feed the poor are great. But let’s be serious here, the UN is weak and without US support, it goes nowhere. The UN has to solicit donations from its member countries, which at last estimate was around $2B a year. And let’s not forget the Iraq invasion of ’03; they had no power to stop us because their threats were empty. The UN has no military to enforce their decisions, which if they did would probably defeat the purpose if it’s existence.

    Yes, I think it’s disturbing that a resolution chocked full of rhetoric that limits liberties has gotten this far in an organization originally formed to promote international peace and security. And it eats me up that the US has this asinine desire to be politically correct both at home and abroad and that this “need to please” would even allow these religious zealots to think they could pass a resolution so ridiculous and heinous is beyond me. But let these morons keep playing in their sand box and just when they think they have some power, the US will step in, kick over their sand castle and lay a big turd on whatever fucked up plans they were cooking up.

    On another note regarding liberties and not all ideas being equal, I found this article interesting and thought provoking.


  5. klowe says:

    JD’s example of the silent majority reminds me (ironically) of a Malcolm X quote “Those that stand for nothing, will fall for anything”. A complex issue for the silent majority at best. Do they really stand for nothing as regards to human life? Do they sit idle because they fear reprisal from the fanatics?-something us Westerners really don’t have to worry about in the real world. Or, do they stand “silently” in support (or tolerant) of the killings of non-islamics because the Koran teaches it as a core. Are these killings justified or at worst tolerable in their minds due to subconscious indoctrination of years of Koran teachings?

    I have my theories and I would say that it seems to me that this religion is one of the most prominent circa 500B.C. religions to deteriorate in such a dramatic fashion while the others have more or less evolved into religions of tolerance, acceptance, and peace.

    Is it coincidence that it is NOT just a Christan-vs-Islam issue…but an Islam vs Judaism, secular, Buddhism, Chinese Traditional, African primal/indigenous? There are thousands of documented examples of modern violence due to intolerance against ALL of these religions.

    I personally am a tolerance and accepting person…but I fundamentally believe that the teachings of the Koran are fundamentally flawed or severely misinterpreted and over represented.

  6. Russell says:

    I’d be inclined to agree with everything you said, and would like to agree with it, but when I look at how the UN and IPCC have turned junk science and global warming hysteria into an extremely powerful force in our international and domestic policy (i.e. the cap-and-trade bill) I get a little worried. We are pretty close to being the center of a wealth-redistribution scheme that pays the third world for the “damages” we have caused to the environment. Maybe the real problem here is our own politicians, but I can’t help but look at what has happened in France and Denmark with muslim-european relations and get a little worried.

    • Aaron says:

      While I doubt our opinions are far off on the Muslim-Euro relations, I’d like to brush up on the topic before commenting. However, I agree and feel a large contributing problem is the influence our own politicians AND media have on such issues. Not that I have or ever will subscribe to any kind of conspiracy theory (Lee Harvey was the lone gunman), I wouldn’t underestimate the influence of megalomaniac Gore propagating his movie on global warming, hopping from country to country chastising the domestic and international environmental policies while his own home gobbled up 12 times the electricity of the average home in Nashville, crazy considering his home was only about 4 times bigger than an average home. But I digress. My point is I wouldn’t be surprised to see a correlation between the movie release, the media attention, public “awareness”/ “outcry” and domestic and international environmental policy changes via US laws and UN or IPCC campaigns. I wonder if I could pull together some data to find what I’m looking for and then if I had to, manipulate it to get the outcome I want. Roger Moore would be proud.

  7. klowe says:

    OK so on the non-religious and political tip. I gotta plug my new favorite totally Paleo restaurant in Huntsville.

    ………THE MONGOLIAN GRILL! Place is awesome. Basically you pay for an empty bowl and fill it up with whatever meats (16 to choose from chicken to calamari) and then your veggies. Spice it up as desired and pick your sauce (Sechaun +++ super hot is a personal favorite) and then they stir fry it all up in front of you. You KNOW exactly what you are eating!

    Food was great and service was awesome.

    Located next to Alabama Outdoors at 2030 Cecil Ashburn Drive (in the “I Love Sushi and Chef’s Table) shopping strip.


    Nine bucks to fill your bowl. 15.00 for “un-limited”

    and trust me on the fried ice-cream/fried pound cake desert : )

  8. Russell says:

    That sounds delicious. I need to take you there to pay you back for watching Murph. Want to go next weekend?

  9. Jimmy says:


    the problem is that we have islamic schools here in America teaching kids that violence for islam is a good thing. these articles concern the saudi islamic academy in virginia that for years has taught it’s student that killing non muslims is good.

  10. I have to second Kevin’s review of the Mongolian Grille. I work directly across the street at The Mathnasium tutoring, and have had the pleasure of stopping in there twice.

    …so of course I’ll take this opportunity to plug the Mathnasium, given it’s relative location. If any of you CF parents out there want to check it out, drop the kids off at the Mathnasium for an hour and go give it a try.

  11. tracey says:

    Good work to the ladies that showed up for 9:30 BOOTCAMP…got to love those burpees!!!!:)

  12. Mandee Miller says:

    19:12 as rx’d

  13. Krista says:

    I already posted this on facebook but I’ll post it here too. Daniel was hired to do the inside of the Stir Fry Mongolian Grill, hang the sign, etc. Our company hung the sign, tore down an interior wall, filled a dumpster full of waste and billed the owners. They never paid us! Obviously because they didn’t pay, we didn’t do any more work for them. The sad thing is that we were “friends” with them before all this happened. Also, when we first met the owner, he had just gotten out of prison for drugs and we have heard from some workers there that they are selling drugs out of their restaurant. I hate to talk bad about people but when I saw all these posts with good reviews, I had to tell about our experience.

  14. Russell says:

    Wow, thanks for the heads up Krista.

  15. Jason Terry says:

    WOD – clean out attic of christmas decorations, replace with halloween decorations, transfer all bowhunting stuff into storage, get out stuff for muzzleloader and rifle season, repack bags, hitch duck boat to back of track, and prepare for building and setting up tripod tomorrow on edge of soybean field so I can fill my freezer with venison!! Now, ready to hunt, hunt, hunt…….I’ll run around the house a few times and do overhead squats with my rifle for time!

  16. Jason Terry says:

    WOD – clean out attic of christmas decorations, replace with halloween decorations, transfer all bowhunting stuff into storage, get out stuff for muzzleloader and rifle season, repack bags, hitch duck boat to back of track, and prepare for building and setting up tripod tomorrow on edge of soybean field so I can fill my freezer with venison!! Now, ready to hunt, hunt, hunt…….I’ll run around the house a few times and do overhead squats with my rifle for time!

  17. Patrick says:

    Front Squats 3×5: 190-190-190
    Snatch Technique Work at 85#
    Deadlift 1×5: 320(4) couldn’t get the back into extension, horrible form, drop 10% next DL day.

    Note: I was trying to get some active rest between the squats and deadlift. It’s better to do the technique work before heavy work sets.

  18. Zak says:

    Back Squat 5×5
    225-245 (stopped because of back pain)
    Bench Press 5×2
    I ended up with 270 by not putting a 5# plate on the right side. I thought that I was hanging over on the left side, but it was just 5 lbs heavier.

    The Ensign

    Complete as many rounds as possible in 3 minutes:

    3 Power Clean 155 lbs

    6 Push Ups

    9 Air Squats / 9 Ring Dips

    Perform Air Squats on Rounds 1, 3, 5 and Ring Dips on Rounds 2, 4, 6.

    Repeat this sequence 6 times (6 rounds). Rest for 1 minutes between the 3 minute rounds.
    1 – 5 Rnds
    2 – 3 Rnds + 5 Ring Dips
    3 – 4 Rnds
    4 – 3 Rnds
    5 – 4 Rnds
    6 – 3 Rnds = 22 rounds total + 5 Ring Dips
    Thanks to Josh for hanging around and counting for me.

  19. Justin says:

    44s off PR, feeling a little under the weather
    If Josh hadn’t been pushing me, it would have easily taken me over 15 minutes

  20. klowe says:

    That is really shady. Is the work documented. Was there a signed contract…if so….small claims court and now!


    I’ll keep it to myself and feel a bit guilty when I eat there. I’d be lying if I said it wasn’t good eats.

    but for real…I know you guys better than them. I’ll support you guys with a dissing of business until it gets resolved………hopefully soon.

    • Daniel says:

      Danny, the owner, is a good chef. I’ll give him that. He cooked for my B-day party on my 35th. It’s no denying that he stiffed me though.

      I’m done trying to pursue payment. I’m not vengeful, and I believe that if you don’t forgive, then you won’t be at peace with yourself. I’ve forgiven Danny and have told him personally. However, I believe that you can forgive someone, and you can also decide not to be their friend anymore.

  21. Jimmy says:

    500 meter row 1:30.6 really bad form

  22. I’m a newbie, so a “rest day” feels like I should be subjected to some sort of torture / hazing… so…5k on the treadmill at the Matrix – hill climb: 30:20…can’t wait to learn the “Pose Method” next month so that sucks less. Almost fell off the back of the treadmill twice.

    Krista, my background is in commercial construction, and I know firsthand how difficult it can be to collect monies due for work completed. I hope that you can settle the matter shortly. Until then, I can cook my own meat!

    • Patrick says:

      Enjoy being the newbie and the rapid gains that come with it. Every WOD is a new PR and more weight on the bar each strength day. Unfortunately, the intermediate stage comes in a few months and the gains slow down, or in my case come on a glacial time scale.